ARE YOU PARTING A SVO? Read this warning.

[SVOCA]

This club was founded by 5 individuals who wanted a community for the Mustang SVO Owner/Enthusiast that had integrity. Our primary mission statement says "we are dedicated to the preservation and enjoyment of the Mustang SVO". It's on the very first page you see when you enter the www.svoca.com website.

What part of THAT do you not understand?

This club and this club's website will NOT be a tool for vultures and profiteers to exploit. If you think you are doing the SVO Community a service by PARTING OUT a running, driving, restorable SVOs - that is a bunch of BS! For every SVO parted, that's one less possible car to be enjoyed by a future owner. For every SVO parted, that's one less customer for the legitimate business owners who are investing time/capital in getting us reproduction parts manufactured.

We are not here to conduct witch-hunts. None of the Directors have the personal time to investigate what we believe is someone parting a perfectly good SVO for profit. BUT, and read this carefully all you car parting bastards: If we catch you on this website - using it for your personal gain by parting a SVO that is running, driving, or restorable - YOUR NAME will be posted on this wall of shame, you will be banned from this club and use of it's website, and we will ask every member, svo owner, and enthusiast we know to treat you like you have been infected with the plague.

Current WALL OF SHAME

http://www.svoca.com/busted/

[PORSCHEFREAK]

SWEET! YOU TELL EM!:mad:

[Black86]

Mr. LaKose::mad: :mad: You need:help: You are a scumbag! That car that I just saw pictures of in the link above has better parts than the car I DRIVE!!!! I don't even HAVE SPATS! I will not buy any till the repro are available just to be sure that I am not helping a scab like yourself make a few $$
(excuse the rant admin types,sorry)

[Svo4real]

that svo looks fine, dont part it! you need :help: Mr.

[SVOeric]

Don't worry Black86, this is the place for ranting...
Ranting is perfectly acceptable, as long as it is done gentleman-like!
 

[Black86]

Thanks Eric (that was my "family" version :D ) You shoulda heard me when I was calling my wife to take a look at those pictures!:nono:

[motormenace]

i can't believe this prick is sending e-mail to people that want to kick his ***!!!! here the one i got and the responce i sent. what a ****stick!!!

Hi you bought my passenger sided engine mount off me a wile back on
e-bay and you asked me if I had the driver side mount. and I do have
the mount now if you are still interested.

Thanks
Kane LaKose
e-bay name 2muchfunck


I would love to buy this part from you, but i won't! After seeing the silver svo you are parting out, why the hell am i going to support a person who is ****ing up our hobby and these cars? I guess it's hard to make good money on svo's, without parting them out. Well, after buying another svo, atleast it's another one that won't be parted out by your greedy fingers. Also, the last part i bought, i didn't get a responce on the part i needed until i got the mount. Great service?

...hope the car falls on your ***,...

motormenace



:mad:

[lonchair]

I would just like a little more info on Tim Smith. When I first got my SVO and was new to this stuff, I bought some parts from him. In some our initial conversations, he said that the cars he parts out are rusted or wrecked beyond reserection. Later I learned peoples opinion of him and have shyed away from buying from him.


Just wondering if you can present some proof.

Later,
Lon

[svobud]

Proof of Tim Smith being scumbag? That's like proving Bin Laden is the leader of a Terrorist Org. Ya just know..it's been so long since anyone questioned it...Hmm.....let's see. Seeing how that piece of crap has stayed clear of this club since we formed it in 1998, I (me personally) really don't have any current proof of where he gets his parts. I just know what his integrity is like.

Guess you call David Bird and ask him....

I do know of serveral people (including one of the BoD Directors) that had problems with him and the parts he sold. Maybe one of them can shed some light on that waste of breath.

To me, he's the original "I part SVOs for a living" guy I ever encountered. Thus, why he was put at the top of the list.

Funniest thing ever was when Tim complained about Steve Castro ripping him off. That was on the old DCompton mailing list. That was ssoooo funny!

[lonchair]

Just wonder'n since I saw all the stuff about Steve Castro over at Turboford, but all I had ever heard previously about Tim Smith was never first hand knowledge.

[KevinK]

What's the deal with Steve Castro? He is local to me and seems to always have stuff for sale. Some cheap and some not. I feel less likely to get ripped off dealing with him in person.

[SVOeric]

Steve Castro has parted more running and driving SVO's than any one person I can think of.   He was (and probably still is) buying any SVO he could pick up for less thank $3K, and parting them out.  --

He parted out a silver 86 abour a year ago, that was a VERY nice CA, no rust car. 

BTW:: You are probably very lucky that he is local to you.  I know several people that paid for parts, and never got a thing.  His feedback on ebay is private, why would anyone do that, unless they are in the habbit of ripping people off ??????

His excuse for the many number of people that that he pissed off was --I'm having shipping problems....

[SVOPaul]

Let's see here....I have first hand knowledge on both people. First we'll start with Steve Castro....My beef with Steve is strictly over his outlook on the SVO world....I have delt with him and he is a nice guy....parts shipment can be delayed(sometimes greatly delayed) but he never ripped me off. My problem with him is what he told me in person on the phone...and that is that he actively looks to buy SVOs in the $2500-$3500 price range to PART OUT! I explained to him that each SVO he parted out was one less customer and that he was only killing his own market. He replied that he "felt" he had to keep parts on the shelf and that sometimes he just barely broke even on the cars....to that I responded that " if you are just breaking even, WHY bother to part them out....makes no common sense" He ended it with "well, we just disagree on that". In today's market a car in that price range is a pretty darn nice car!

Tim Smith:....Where do we start! This guy goes around badmouthing everyone and every product out there that might take a sale away from him...even if he has never seen the product and even if he doesn't know the person! Tim for years has been parting out good cars....good RUNNING cars. I have spoken with people in his area(both when he lived in PA and now in MA) that have witnessed him parting out good running cars and also covering up/masking bad/broken parts and listing them for sale. There have also been some questionable coincidental thefts at a shop where he paid a guy to part out a couple of SVOs...funny that only the Ford radios were missing from all the cars outside and there had been no prior problems in over 10 years...not to mention he was caught going through some of those cars prior to this....no proof that I heard of but makes you think and made the shop owner think enough to tell him never to come back around. I even have records of a VIN number from an '86 SVO Comp prep that Tim personally told me he saved off the car so that he could sell it to someone who wanted to "fake" a comp prep SVO! This was told to me at the time when we were on good speaking terms(this was the beginning of the end of my talking to him and that was the reason!). Tim can also be a nice guy to "talk to" but his reputation is the worst in the world on this topic and the fact that he planned to sell VIN numbers really shows what kind of individual he is!

As far as Kane...the latest butcher? I don't know him but would love to personally drop that car on his head!!

[jcwillis]

Hi Everyone,
Well, I looked over these comments about folks parting out good SVO's and it seems I have seen this before with another fine Ford product, the Boss 302. There was a time when a Boss 302 was worth more in parts than being complete. I recall the turmoil and this seems like a replay of the past.
The unfortunate fact about SVO's right now is that they are worth more in parts than they are as a whole. Right or wrong, that just seems to be the case.
Maybe it is a cycle that a low production specialty car needs to go through in order to increase in value. Seems folks that do not have the specialty car try to emulate them by attaching parts (from a Boss or an SVO) so that their car has a piece of history attached to it.
Eventually, just like the Boss 302, the SVO will be worth more as a whole than in parts. It may take quite a while. Then, SVO's previously thought as being beyond restorable, will be reconsidered for restoration.
Just my 2 pennies.
Jim

[GT350R]

Well if there was any question left from the areas not shown in the pictures , they can be put to rest now. He has the shell up on ebay and it shows the rest of the car.

Out of respect for eric and the board, I will restrain myself from even saying anything further than that,

[Musttanguy]

I have read your replys on the parting of buildable SVO's and completely agree 100%. The same goes for any limited build vehicle.

I just wanted to give a heads up to everyone about an SVO being parted out on the http://www.cafords.com message board,
it appears to be one of the guys in question parting this vehicle out.

http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=007006

[madadder]

I have'nt been on this board in a while, been at TurboFord now and then, but when I came to see whats up I came across this and the pictures of the "DEAD" SVOs. A$$holes like that should be shot. It breaks my heart to see the pics of perfectly good SVOs parted for cash. I would rather see them deal drugs to people who are only killing themselves to get high than rip apart a defensless SVO. Think about it...its like someone beating a dog that is chained up. I hope that these A$$holes work under the cars while the family is away and die a slow painfull death when the jack stand kicks out. Real slow.:mad:

[svony]

What he said...:mad:

[xr4timan]

I agree 1000% percent about this, but I own a Sierra Cosworth 3 door. As many may know, the 3 dr version was only made in a limited under "5000" in the whole world. Yet several "traders" break(dismantle) working, running Cosworths in order to make a quick buck. Some have actually bought many cars cheap in order to strip them. These are working, running cars - sometimes in prime condition.

Here's a link of a thread on this site in this regard: http://bbs.rsownersclub.co.uk/showt...1712#post401712

What should I do? What can I do?

[svt1996cobra]

I was interested in buying a rolling chassis SVO that is posted in the forum here. I started researching parts and found this on ebay. Does anyone know this guy? It looks like he is parting out a 84 SVO? David

http://cgi.*********/***********ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7939362817

[SVOeric]

yea -- we know

http://www.svoca.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6869

[AT6svo]

This @sshat is parting out what sounds like a complete car...

http://cgi.*********/***********ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4510493049

yourautopart = keith chan

When I emailed him about the car, this is what I recieved.
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hi , the car is in perfect condition. i have most of the part. let me know what u need.

AT6svo wrote:

Question about your item

Dear yourautopart,

Dear Seller, I would like to know more information about the SVO parts you have listed. I would like the VIN# of the car being parted and a reason to why the car is being parted out. Thanks in advance, -Mike Malone, SVO Club of America, Member 416
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[evintho]

He's at it again!!

http://www.***************/sby/car/73025442.html

http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=028804

[svobud]

Originally posted by evintho
He's at it again!!

http://www.***************/sby/car/73025442.html

http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=028804

Steve Castro, right?

[Ken Potter]

I really wonder about people sometimes... No offense to our fellow California SVO members but alot of those people at CaliforniaFords have some SERIOUS problems. It makes me want to post some responses ( not just SVO stuff ) but I'm not going to bother with it. I've always considered myself open-minded and understand everybody has opinions but some of those folks need a good kick in the wrong place! :mad:

[evintho]

svobud, I'm pretty sure that's him. I see his stuff on www.craigslist.org all the time!

KP, I think the majority of people on www.californiafords.com, aren't even old enough to buy alcohol! Therefore, due to limited life experiences, thier opinions are going to be jaded/one-sided, at best!

[SVOeric]

I don't think he sells much on ebay any more -- his feedback was so bad, he had to make it private, and the, of course, no one would buy from him...

[Eyelawdoc]

Yep, that's Castro! I recognize his shop in the background of the picture of that poor black SVO.:help:

[turbizzy]

Well i don't know that guys name but if thats the dude who has a repair shop in San Jose out in the booneys part of it right off Interstate 880 then i've met him. I bought my flush mount brackets off him and he told me that usually he won't part out a SVO and that if its not repairable hell part it out. BS!!! He likes Boss 302s tho, if thats him. He was a older fat white guy right? I think his AOL screen name is Fordcom50@aol.com.

BTW, i joined CAFORDS.com because some of my buddys are on it and stuff but there are some real phukkin idiots on there. And yeah, most of them aint even old enough to buy alcohol and can only afford what their dads credit limits is. Anyway, here are some of things they say: Put that stuff on the SVO club of America website. I sold off a bunch of good stuff off of my car in its transition to a 93 Cobra look and got way more money for all the weird SVO specific parts. The SVO dorks will pay top dollar for decent stuff. I think it's svoca.com or maybe .net (phildog - phildog50@sbcglobal.net) they are a bunch of fags that will delete your post because you not "preserving" an SVO but parting it out,even if the car is a POS that is far from ever being a nice car.....hell they would be all pissed off if they knew you had a 351 in your SVO and didnt keep it authentic (HaulinAssMaro - mailto:fast3rdgen@aol.com) <--dude has a drag camaro and a 86GT. Always postin on that board with that stupid name

[SVOPaul]

HaulinAssMaro is Steve Castro's brother....Steve can at least be cordial and hold an adult conversation while his brother is more of a 5 year old who thinks he is the greatest thing since sliced toast....a real class act. If they have white trash trailer parks in San Jose you can bet "Maro" lives in one of them.

Steve never did "get it" and still doesn't...he is only chasing the mighty dollar and really couldn't care less about the hobby...I used to get along quite well with him until he just wouldn't "get it".

As far as the children on that board....let them stay over there in Romper Room....we have a good quality of people here and have no use for that kind of "children".

[turbizzy]

Well ok then maybe thats not steve castro then that i was thinking. But that shop in the background does look very familiar especially with that late 60s mustang in the back. I thought it was this one guy who i met out in San Jose and he had a shop where i think they worked on mostly old mustangs but there was a chevelle in there too. Kinda a crap heap yard more than a shop and dude's kinda dirty trashy looking.

[SVOPaul]

No, you were right...that is Steve Castro(Fordcom50 email)...His brother being the childish person he is often is more vocal on the internet....he likes to talk big and bash everyone who doesn't agree from behind a keyboard, just like a kid. Some people converse and act like adults...others don't.

I had many discussions with Steve personally on the phone regarding the club's stance and why we feel that way. I even shared with him a bit of advice that was handed to me by Tony Branda(Shelby vendor)...."Every one you part out is one less customer you have".....Steve didn't agree and felt that the mighty dollar was more important up front rather than sell a repairable car and then sell that person more parts. Last we spoke I told him that I didn't agree and why and that was it.....Steve chose his path and by doing so accepted his label as being unfriendly toward the hobby.

[turbizzy]

I knew i'd been to that shop then. Well then i wonder who i met then the guy was like in his 30-40s and assuming his brother is around his age, im surprised i thought that Haulinassmaro was like 20yrs old. Hmm

[Ken Potter]

I only have two things to add to this : There was a statement made by the "maro" guy that the SVO would make a good demolition car. I'd like to meet up with him in his SVO and say maybe a 72 LTD station wagon? or maybe a Buick SafariWagon or Olds VistaCruiser? The guy doesn't even understand basic physics... BIG car squashes SMALLER car... apparently hasn't been to many demolition derbys? and then why would somebody use the screen name of "H.A. Maro" on a dedicated Ford webpage? Couldn't he come up with something a little more clever? Maybe we'll get lucky and his stupidity will eventually remove him from the gene pool.

[hotrodfeguy]

Here would be a nice exaple of something that should not be parted out. I wish my tub on my Red 86 was this nice to start with. :box: this guy E-bay number 220234166263