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  • "Giamanut" tubular header

    Well, Josh (1low86svo) had this header on his 86 but decided to go back to stock. So, in my neverending search for cool stuff I said "I'll give it a go!!" Anyways, I believe he bought from a guy called Giamanut over on turboford. It's mild steel construction, tubular, stock location, no EGR.

    Wanted to see how it ran but also wanted to test a high temp coating to aid longevity of the header but also to lower engine bay temps. There is a local company, Finish Line Coatings (.com), who coated it with their high temp "turbo" coating which is supposed to withstand 2000*. I think the coating process, internal and external, was $130.

    I also aquired an SCE copper exhaust gasket in a trade with jcamper so that went in too.

    Josh and i tried a few different ways to get it on, which involved R&R'ing it several times and concluded that the best way to install this item is to install the header and then bolt the turbo on once the header is fully bolted to the engine. Not the standard technique I realise, but the easiest way to do it and the only way that will allow all 8 fasteners to be used. BTW, the fasteners we used were M10x1.25x16mm with an 8mm allen head. We also had to make a cut in the lower half of the stock IC for clearance. A TC IC doesn't need to be cut but I thin k they look ugly. Sorry

    Now, I can't attest for the longevity of the header yet, only travelled about 15 miles with it on, but the coating certainly does the business. After our initial run-in "thrashing", which involved being in the boost a lot!!!, the IC was cool to the touch. For reference, I could put my hand on a header tube 5 mins after shut down whereas the water coolant feed line going to the turbo was still scolding. I'm yet to do actual temp readings but when I do I'll post the data.

    Hp gain, don't know yet, couldn't get to a dyno if i wanted to, SNOW!!!!, but the turbo seems to spool quicker and it does sound a little meaner.

    If one of Rod's headers had been more readily available when this project started, prior to the Reunion, I probabpy would've grabbed one beacuse it's a proven product and can be had with an EGR, but this was at hand at the time so we'll see how it goes. Enjoy
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    I glad to hear about the coating. I've spoken with Lona at Finish Line and I'm gonna have them ceramic coat a few parts for the 86. I'l be interested in your temp data.
    Brian - member #0584

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    • #3
      Im glad to see we got the bad boy on finally.

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      • #4
        Chalky:

        I haven't been in on my own 86 2.3T, so posts like yours give me insight for
        a possible future use of Giamanut's header. Your header was EGR-less but, I think he will put a bung in, extra $$, for the EGR when emissions are mandated. And as close as the spark plug wires are to the header, a good heat disapating coating, inside? and out!, is a MUST!

        And pardon my not being familiar with Rod's header....is it tubular as the one you used in this assembly? The more choices I have in the tubular arena, the better. Keep up the posting as it's appreciated by this turbo neophyte!
        Last edited by S8V6O; 12-25-2008, 11:06 PM.
        '64.5 K cp, '66 A fb, '82 GT T-Tops, '86 SVO.

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        • #5
          I'm interested to see how this works out. I just don't see how a mild steel header can support the turbo's weight without cracking for any reasonable amount of time. I've always thought Rod's approach with heavy stainless was the way to go. Or Bob massive log (which I've seen crack).

          Did you use the factory brace? How was the fit of all the factory stuff, like oil return line, etc...?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by chalkys_explorer View Post
            Well, a guy called Giamanut over on turboford.
            Yep, he is here as well. He was selling these on eBay too.

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            • #7
              we did use the factory brace it worked out well.

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              • #8
                That guy got banned from here for being a total idiot...
                I'd be real scared of buying anything from him. the fact that it don't fit right sounds about par for the course too.
                Eric C
                SVOCA Webmaster

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                • #9
                  hey mike that's what we put in the head was 10x1.5mm

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                  • #10
                    Major failure

                    Well, after about 10,000 miles it's toast. Cracked about 3/4's of the way around the collector section. Heard a noise and thought I had a leak, but discovered a major crack. It appears as though the collector material is much thinner than the piping andis the weak point.

                    On apositive note, the coating held up pretty well.

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                    • #11
                      Lets see a pic of your crack.

                      -RICH-
                      < - - - Brothers From Different Mothers

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the feedback.....glad I didn't buy one! I'll have to admit it looked nice but, nice looking won't cut it if you only get 10k miles out of it.
                        Is there anything similar, tubular, on the market that's proven long lasting?
                        Last edited by S8V6O; 04-30-2009, 06:53 PM.
                        '64.5 K cp, '66 A fb, '82 GT T-Tops, '86 SVO.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SVO4PWR2 View Post
                          Lets see a pic of your crack.

                          -RICH-
                          I got the pic & it aint pretty. I can dig in my email for it but I'm sure Chalky or Josh could post it before I could find it.

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                          • #14
                            I will post a pic later.

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                              Pic

                              Here's a pic.
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