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    I just swapped on the new big valve head and on the second to last exhaust manifold stud , I snapped one off. I REALLY REALLY do not want to pull it all apart again.

    I know this has happened to someone out there before, so tell me your tricks to getting them out!

    So far an "easy out" seems to be leading the way. All the other ways from drilling and tapping to burning it out with a carbon rod involve pulling it apart again and having way too long of a down time.

  • #2
    Have you actually studded your head where the manafold attaches??

    or did you snap one of the bolts, that has the stud piece on it??

    If it is actual studs, i dont see any way of getting it out without taking the head back off... ez-out's just won't hold that much torque.

    If it is a broke off bolt, try just a pair of needle nose plyers.

    I borke a head bolt not too long ago, and was able to work it loose with a pair of needle nose , and got it to screw out... (kinda depends on where it broke off at too)

    those bolts (or studds for that matter) are really hard material, and going to be a ROYAL PAIN to drill
    Eric C
    SVOCA Webmaster

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    • #3
      Sorry, They are the regular old manifold bolts. They used two diffeent kinds. The studs where the intercooler attached and the regular bolts.

      This was one of the bolts. I am 99% sure there is little or nothing sticking out to grab onto.

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      • #4
        yea.. the head bolt I broke was not sticking out either....

        Luckily, when mine broke, it was in a V shape, and I was able to use needle nose plyers, stick down in the hole, and turn the bolt.

        the good news on the bolt that broke is that all the pressure should have been on the head of the bolt.... so if you lubed it a bit before you put it in, hopefully, it will screw out fairly easily...

        do you have the manafold off ?

        if you do, is the bolt broke below the surface of the head?
        if so, it broke in a bad place, and it is going to suck getting it out...

        If you do have the manafold off, and you can get to the bolt, take a punch, and a hammer. put the punch on the bolt, and angle it so it will turn the bolt the direction you want it to go, and wack it with the hammer. I have managed to get quite a few broken bolts/ bolts with stripped heads off using this method..
        Eric C
        SVOCA Webmaster

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        • #5
          The manifold is still on the engine. To be honest with ya , when it happened I gave up. It was bad enough that it had started to rain on me already.

          That punch idea is exactly the kind of stuff I was looking for! I dont think the pliers would work, if it was tight enough to snap off my sucky little pliers will not happen!

          I have way too much to still get done! I am trying to get my 3 inch exhaust hung still , I want to poke in a different tranny and I want to chaneg the rear to a 3.55 instead of the 3.73's. I already have my front mount IC installed but I still need to plumb it in.

          I already have the 35lb injectors installed in the intake, but the way things are starting to look , I will end up runnning a PK1 computer or trying my original computer with a big vam and the 35's. I have a LA3 to swap in , but I dont think I will get around to it before Carlise. I already did new rotors,calipers, ball joints, springs, straightened my fog light bar and lower nose, and replaced my cracked EGR tube.

          After all that I should just need to upgrade the fuel system and mabey get a T3/T4. Then I will be done with it and I can start restoring (to stock) the other Anny turbo and getting my 84 GT turbo into shape for a summer daily driver.

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          • #6
            DANG.. that is a lot of work!!

            I would have agreed with you when you said if it broke the bolt, a little pair of plyers wont help...

            but the last couple of times I have done it, the bolt broke, and left the stem of the bolt that you could almost turn it with your fingers... just think positive!!!

            What you really need is to get a set of GATOR (TM) grips in there

            LOL
            Eric C
            SVOCA Webmaster

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            • #7
              I tried that too! He will not come near me after seeing the last picture I posted on Turbofrod

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              • #8
                yea... he's probably still playing with his clutch.

                I saw that pic too,,,, I'm kinda scared too!!!!!

                Eric C
                SVOCA Webmaster

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                • #9
                  Thats what go on his clutch and made it slip!

                  If you saw the pic, can you believe I found that picture as a poster for sale on EBAY!! They even make mouse pads!


                  Yes the seller is from Cleveland, and no its not me. But are you starting to see a pattern here?

                  Gator with his Cleveland Steamers obssesion.................

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                  • #10
                    Here's another option on getting it out. If you can score the broken surface with like a dremel and a very fine bit to make a slot that a flat tip screw driver will fit and try turning it out. You'll also have the advantage of some torque by putting a crescent wrench onto the screw driver grip if necessary while pushing in on the end of it. Has worked for me...good luck, they can be a bitch
                    Joe

                    Early 84 1C

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                    • #11
                      What a nightmare! Ok, I pulled the manifold back off and I did have about 1/2 an inch sticking out. So after about 5-6 hours with vise grips, a torch, and oil, I have nothing sticking out. ITs like the metal was too soft and it just peeled away. I even ran a drill bit throught it pretty easy. The good news is that I got some oil behind it through the drilled hole. The bad news is that I promptly snapped off a "easy out" in the hole.

                      My drill bits had nothing on the hardened steel easy out. So It is going to a pro tommarrow to be redrilled and tapped.

                      Hopefully they can get something done with it

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                      • #12
                        If you have a friend,who is good at what he does& understands the properties of metals just a little (I have did this before) the bolt &EZ out can be removed with a tourch without damaging the head.The bolt & EZ out will melt out and not even hurt the threaded hole.CAUTION don't try it if you don't what you are doing.
                        Don

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                        • #13
                          I am going to look into that if my friend cannot do it. My brother is a machinist (although, not much when it comes to cars )

                          He knows of a shop that uses a carbon rod and burns it out. Not sure of the cost though......

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SVOeric
                            yea... he's probably still playing with his clutch.
                            Im gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you dont know the whole story and you are just making a mild mannered joke.

                            You have no clue how bad this clutch situation is pissin' me off...

                            GT: Havent heard from Chuckie Fab yet...talk to ya as soon as I do.

                            Damn...JonJ was right, you really are proud of that pic arent you.....

                            " Motorsport really has no need for a group like ours, but we will endeavor to serve regardless." - PRDA

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                            • #15
                              Actually, it wasn't even a joke, just that I knew you were working on your clutch. the gator grip comment was a poke at you tho...

                              I didn't know the clutch was a problem at all. sorry to hit a sore spot.

                              GT: did you get it out yet???

                              let us know!
                              Eric C
                              SVOCA Webmaster

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