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[351wcoupe]

I am building an 86 351 coupe. My daily driver is an 84 SVO. I am considering buying another svo for parts. Will the front rotors change over or do I need to change the calipers too. On the rear do I need to change the master cylinder and proportioning valve. Are there any other changes? Do 94 and up mustang wheels have the right offset?
Thanks.
I like all of the options with the new format.

[svobud]

so - exactly what are you asking? From what I gathered - you are thinking about buying another SVO and part it and you're wanting to know what parts can carry over to your project 86 Coupe? Personally - the stock brakes on a SVO are not that desirable....I'd suggest finding a sn95 car (better yet a Cobra) and start with something 10 yrs better.

SN95 and up wheels have the right bolt pattern, but not the correct offset for a SVO - your wheel wells will need to be modified to eliminate any rubbing/scraping (especially in the rear with a lowered car).

[351wcoupe]

Actually you answered my questions completely.
thanks.

[svobud]

aahhh...k, cool.

you might start checking some local Junk Yards for the parts. Pick and Pull yards are the best ...in my opinion that is. But, using the newer stuff also makes it easier on you when you start looking to rebuild or replace parts in the future.....just about anytime to see a part application - it'll say "from this year and on...EXCEPT SVO".. and, the SVO brakes aren't all that great - not when you compare them to 13" Cobra/Bullit brakes. Plus, by using a later model (sn95) V8 rear...you get rear disc AND the 8.8 not a 7.5 housing.

Find ya local junkyard....take some tools, a chair, a beverage, and have at it...

[351wcoupe]

do the sn95 cars use the same spindle the fox mustang or is it a different set up completely, like the newer t-birds?

[svobud]

different spindle. I'd grab the whole front suspension ...much better set up. again - the parts will be around 10 yrs longer too

[Pur Pony]

svobud-

I was thinking of upgrading my 84 SVO brakes to 94+ cobra 13" brakes....

this means that i would have to change to SN95 spindles- correct???

and that means I would have to change my entire k-memeber?? and arms???

will i loose handling from my SVO k-memeber and arms by switching to the newer k-member???

thanks

[svobud]

I would think you would want to upgrade to the newer parts Pur Pony. It's not necessary to change the K-members ....but you can't just bolt on the SN95 Spindles either. You'll need to change out the Arms as well.

You'll also want to think about some 17" wheels - as the factory 16" wheels would be right at the edge of not fitting around the big brakes/calipers (they fit - it's just a very tight fit).

Ryan Cloud (SVOCA Member #0011) just did this entire modification to this 86 2A. Except, he used Bullit Calipers (smae thing as Cobra) and Stillen Cross drilled rotors (bought through SVPU). He is using the new Bullit wheels as well. Looks great. I'll see about getting Ryan to furnish an entire list of parts necessary for the swap to 13" Cobra Brakes.

If you can't snatch everything from a wrecked car - then start off with a M-2300-R brake kit along with 94/95 Arms, Spindles/hub....and you'll have to use NON-SVO specific Koni struts now too.

and no, it won't hurt the handling of your SVO. I think Ryan was right behind me on the time board at last year's Reunion Autocross.

[Pur Pony]

SVOBUD-
thanks for the reply. Id love to see a parts list need to do the conversion. I have had 17x8 '96 cobra rims with 245/45/17 tires on my 84 SVO for about 2 years now. acturally they where just put on the car by the previous owner before I bought it. I just sold those and bought a set of polished '01 17x8 cobra rims.

I know i would have to switch to a newer style koni and thats why i was thinking of doing this conversion now!! since my konis need to be rebuilt soon!!

[Pur Pony]

SVOBUD-

could i have Ryan Cloud's email or could you have him email me at saleenlimited@yahoo.com

thanks

[svobud]

I'll see Ryan next weekend at the Fun Ford Weekend event in Commerce, GA. I'll be sure to ask him what all was needed to make the complete swap and get it posted here.

Here's a profile pic of his car with the wheels...you can see the red bullit calipers through the wheels....

Or, you can give a call down to Paul at SVPU (205) 629-3126. He lives just down the road from ol Ryan.

[SVOPaul]

Ryan and I both have the Bullitt wheels on our SVOs and we both took 2 different avenues to do it. There are a couple of ways to change over to the Cobra/Bullitt brakes....Ryan used SN-95 Control arms which had to be modified to use the stock front struts along with the spindles, calipers, brake lines and '01 inner and outer tie rod ends. My SVO is being done slightly different and a little easier.....I am using SN-95 spindles that have been machined to fit the SVO ball joint meaning I can use the stock lower control arms and stock struts without problem. Then with the newer inner and outer tie rod ends it is nearly done. In order to get the bigger brakes to work you will need to run the front brake lines direct and install an adjustable proportioning valve to the rear(I have these prop valves in stock at SVPU). If you do not want to run 17" wheels or still want the option of running your original SVO wheels then you can upgrade to the '99-up GT brakes which have a dual piston caliper and still allow you to run a 16" wheel.

[Philc]

I have done the SN95 swap and am happy with it. I am running 13" brakes, and loving it. I used the tbirs lower control arms (from an '88)

a note on the 99GT calipers and brakes- I ran these for a while and had to remove a little of the webbing from the back of my stock SVO rims- took 10 mins. they actually worked very well- I did 60-0 in about 110ft (on race tires w/ braided brake lines and carbon-metallic pads in a stock weight SVO)

[Pur Pony]

SVOPaul ---- I am in the middle of installing a set of 95 front spindles on my 84 SVO. I am going about it the same way you are... machining out the ball joint location.

You mentioned that going this way allowed the use of the factory style SVO koni struts.... from the way everything is fitting together i dont think that is true. Did you get yours together yet and find any problems??? The base of the SVO strut is much longer then the V-8/non-SVO strut and therefore hits the A-arm on a turn.

Also... how did you go about piping up your brake lines??? do you have some type of diagram you could send me?? and did you need to swithc to a 94+ master cylinder?????

thanks for any more info you could give me-
off to the machine shop to do a little machining

thanks
marc

[SVOPaul]

I have not gotten a chance yet to do the swap on my car....

The spindles I am using were installed on and SVO with the original Konis with no problems(Lee Clary's Evolution SVO)....

You are using original control arms, right?