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  1. #61
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    I have always been told that a roll bar on the street was far more dangerous then not unless you are wearing a helmet.
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    a full roll-cage is always going to keep the passenger compartment from collapsing. Dont see any way that is not more safe that it collapsing on a driver.
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    It all depends on the kind of accident (i.e.- roll over vs horizontal impact). The roll bar can certainly be a foe of your skull if you have a large horizontal movement of your head during the accident and it isn't contained in a helmet. This is why using roll bar padding is highly recommended for street driven vehicles that have roll bars. If you roll your car and are wearing a harness without some sort of roll bar, there is the potential of getting a compression spinal injury with a roof collapse. There are trade-offs with all scenarios, some more severe than others, which should always be considered when installing/using this kind of equipment in your own vehicle.
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    The major cause of deaths in auto accidents (from what I have read) are are head injuries involving the door frame ect. Roll bars are more intrusions into the "head space".
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    head injuries, similar to Dale Earnhardt, where his head bounced off the bar...
    if the bars are build right, they don't move much
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    If built right the bars don't move much-LOL
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    License Plate Lens Kit - LMR/Daniel Carpenter #1

    Just swapped in the LMR license plate lens kit that uses Daniel Carpenter lenses and a screw kit from LMR. Quick, simple job (~10 minutes) and don't know why I waited so long. Only issue I ran into was that the screw kit (LRS-56910-SK) comes with (4) #8 screws. My OEM screws are #10 size screws, so slightly larger. My OEM screws were in good shape with some cleanup, so they were reused. I did send a note to LMR that their website needs to be updated. Reason being is that they state that the kit is "Made in the USA", but the DC lenses are labelled "Made in China", so the site is not 'correct' on the country of origin of the parts. I was a bit surprised by this, but still installed them.

    Here you can see the OEM lenses were showing their 33 year old age with yellowing, cracks and some overspray:

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    Here you can see the new lenses in place and the improvement:

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    Installation steps, including showing the smaller supplied screw (non-rusty version on right):

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    License Plate Lens Kit - LMR/Daniel Carpenter #2

    Just to finish this up, here is the bag label from the lenses, which states they are "Made in China" vs LMR's note that they are made in the USA. I have also included the LMR screw kit bag that contains #8 size screws vs my car that used #10 size screws. Not sure if Ford swapped back and forth between the two sizes or not, but the lens housings have a 0.215" diameter hole that is more appropriate for use with a 0.190" diameter (#10) screw rather than the 0.164" diameter (#8) screw.

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    Here is a closeup of the OEM lens next to the DC unit. Also note that the DC unit comes with a foam gasket to create a seal between the housing and hatch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by svono50 View Post
    Here you can see the OEM lenses were showing their 33 year old age with yellowing, cracks and some overspray
    But... but... The PATINA!!! It's GONE!!! HAHA

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    Looks good. Thanks for the information! I can only hope that I can get my car to the point where I am worrying over little details like license plate lighting! Good work

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    Quote Originally Posted by brotharon View Post
    Looks good. Thanks for the information! I can only hope that I can get my car to the point where I am worrying over little details like license plate lighting! Good work
    Heh, me, too, although I find myself doing the 'little details' vs. finishing up the engine bay work like I should do. I'll have to go have another look at those lenses on our 86. I think they were age-yellowed, but not cracked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Potter View Post
    But... but... The PATINA!!! It's GONE!!! HAHA
    The patina still there, just now in a small ziplock bag since I can bring myself to throw these kind of things in the trash right away...maybe in 10 or so years...

    Oh, there are plenty of other items to worry about, but I added these onto my order for my head/marker lights, well...because I could... After now almost 28 years of ownership of this car, you start to 'almost' run out of things to do.
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    I replaced the ones in the 7B with NOS Ford parts. Along with a whole bunch of other stuff.

    I have a pile of NOS things already stocked up for the Hertz car but not the license plate lights, yet.

    Plenty of other things will come before that, if at all at this point. It's buried in the very back of the garage. Looking more like a future "Barn Find" for somebody after I leave this place.

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