Weight difference between 2.3 turbo engine and 5.0?

[Raven855]

I've had the 289 and the lima on my stand also. I would say 80-100 lbs difference.

[yeahloh]

the weigh tof the newer 5.0 blocks are lighter than the older 289 stuff i have heard they are close stock , but no real firm data.

[sar4497]

How would adding a FMIC make it weigh more, i have my FMIC and piping and i think all of it weighs less then the stock one.

Depends on how big it is, I guess. Mine's huge and has plumbing. The stocker feels pretty light to me, and has virtually no plumbing.

If you would take one head off the 5.0 and cut a straight line down where the intake starts on the one side that would be our motor. So i would say 125-150lb lighter then a 5.0

There's a lot of guesstimating in this thread. Is it because you want the 2.3 to be lighter, or because it really is? I've seen pages with hard numbers suggesting they are almost the same in stock form, but who knows if they are accurate or not. I hope someone has both engines fully assembled in their garage and can put this to rest. If the 2.3 is indeed significantly lighter, it would be a fun stat to give to the Lima bashers. Until then, I'm not buying it.

Don't get me wrong, I think the SVO is a great car (after all, I bought one) and I prefer it with the 4 cylinder, but I have always thought the whole "small engine for better weight distribution" was a lot of smoke and mirrors, and not a lot of substance.

[McTaylor]

I've had both on the same stand, and I can tell you, there is more than 10# difference between them.

And who are we to argue with your butt-dyno equivalent of a scale. Since everyone else is guessing, I guess I'll take a stab at it!

The 2.3T is a pig. You can list all the differences in quantity and composition of components that vary between the 2.3T & the 5.0, but odds are it's all the cast iron that you don't see that makes it so heavy. Thicker sections? Deeper skirt? Ridiculously heavy head? I dunno one way or the other. But I also don't doubt that some form of the 2.3T is within 10-20# of the 302, when weighed with their corresponding accessories.

It's probably that same "hidden" cast iron that makes the stock Lima good to 400hp in relatively stock configuration.

[Ken Potter]

My guesstimates comes from having to physically move all of these engines around in my garage and storage unit. I had a 64.5 289 D code fully dressed, 3 modern day 5.0s of which one is the aluminum head crate engine, one more or less complete TC engine and one short block SVO from the 1C 84.

While I didn't lift it I "muscled" the SVO short block from the tailgate of my F-250 onto a tire on the ground by myself. It wasn't that light but then again it wasn't really that heavy. I've dragged V8s around on tires and would never even considered trying to "muscle" a V8 short block off of the tailgate.

Then again I've also picked up and carried a 96 Cobra 8.8, with full brakes, about 30' across my driveway by myself. It chewed a hole in my leg but I survived.

These things come from living alone and having nobody else around to help...

Wanna hear about me crushing and breaking two bones in my left hand and still being able to unload my 92 coupe into my storage unit? It is a weird thing hearing, and feeling, the bones in your hand go crunch!

Enough rambling I guess...

[Ken Potter]

McTaylor,

Maybe you shouldn't be such a smart a$$ with only two posts?

[SVOeric]

or it could be that this is SVturob who was recently banned for being a smart-***, -- see I'm not STUPID, I know who you are.. your 30 day ban just went to 90, next time, it's permanent.

FYI - -he just registered again, so say goodbye..

[Pat_in_L.A.]

Goodbye.

[Henson]

Don't F with I.T. they always know the truth.

[aaronlake]

TF not including intercooler, ac comp = 374
5.0 efi from crown vic complete not including ac compressor = 455

As close to apples to apples as I can get in my garage without buying another inter-cooler. Not really all that different, but like was said before, the 2.3 sits behind the front axle line and lower in the bay, hence the better handling.

[SVO-SMITTY]

According to "Mustang 5.0." by Kirschenbaum, a 1979-1982 2.3 Turbo motor, with clutch assembly weighs 418 lbs. (I don't know what the difference is between that motor and our SVO-motor, other that intercooler weight).

The book further states that a 1986-1993 weighs 540 lbs. And suggests that the assembly weights varied between 543.6 lbs in 1986 and 536.9 lbs for 1988 and later. This does not include stater, alternator, oil, or coolant.

The book states that the lightest 5.0 motor was the 1982 motor, coming in at 440 lbs.

Right...Wrong...I don't know

Smitty

[NavySVO]

see I'm not STUPID, I know who you are..

The man is like....Matlock!

[SVOeric]

TF not including intercooler, ac comp = 374
5.0 efi from crown vic complete not including ac compressor = 455

these are completely believable numbers..
I'd bet they are really close..

[svobrown]

I would put that in the FAQ until someone else can show a better answer.
I also think that is a very good bet!

[Ken Potter]

Like I said in one of my previous posts I will weigh them someday. I consider myself very lucky to get little non-family /Mustang stuff done now. Just taking the time to load up and take the engines over to my friends scales for weighing would take several hours that I don't have to spare...

Not real high on my priority list.