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    OK,
    I went to Ford for the clip for the fuel rail-to-fuel line and got the one I think I damaged. Ford said forget about them having the tool. They also said they no longer make the actual duckbill connector, but they used to make a repair kit. (So I suppose my SVO is technically totaled because of this leak???) I went to NAPA and they sold me this kit with four "tools" in it. Hopefully this will allow me to take apart the connection. NAPA said no luck on specific tiny fuel o-rings in case I damaged them. I have attached a pic of both the clip and tool kit. Hopefully this is what I need.
    A little background on what I did....
    I had the fuel rail in my hand still connected to the fuel line back in December (it was cold and once again in a hurry) and I could not figure out how to disconnect this strange-to-me connection. So I stuck 2 little jewelers screwdrivers into each side of the connection and yanked the hose off. The little clip never came out. When I reassembled the line I just pushed the line into the connector (and clip) an assumed all was well. Well the connection leaks bad. Hopefully I just ruined the clip??? Or could I have somehow gone too far with the screwdrivers and damaged the o-ring(s)? Why can't I just put a new connector on, any kind? It looks like there is enough hose "slop" to do this.
    Any suggestions?
    Chris
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    Chris Weber
    1985-1/2 9L, #6209, original owner

  • #2
    ok -- you now have the correct tool -- (Half the battle!!)

    The clip is not your problem -- the clip only holds the hose together, it does nothing about sealing the connection.

    the o-ring inside does the sealing - I would pretty much BET that your o-ring is toast.

    The good news is -- that o-ring is nothing special -- go to your local auto-parts store, and buy a package of Misc neopreen (spelled wrong, I'm SURE) o-rings -- these are fuel safe, and should last.

    Take the hose back off, and pull the plastic clip out. Now use your jewlers scredrivers, and a flashlight to pull the old o-ring out. (something with a hook works well too)

    match up the o-ring with something that came in the misc package of o-rings -- the new o-ring will most likely be a little thicker -- this is fine.

    Make sure you put a little lube on the o-ring (something thick is preferable -- that will stay on) and put it back in the groove of the hose, put your clip back in, and hook the hose back up.

    I think this should answer all your questions.
    Eric C
    SVOCA Webmaster

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    • #3
      THANX ERIC!!
      Chris Weber
      1985-1/2 9L, #6209, original owner

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      • #4
        After going to Ford and other part stores I found eveything I needed at Pepboys. They had both type of clips.
        Rick

        84 1C
        80 AMC Eagle
        01 Jincheng 50( with 70 big bore)

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        • #5
          NAPA also carries a replacement connector w/ o-rings, clips and about 12" of nylon fuel line all in one assembly.
          84 SVO 2A
          83 TBird TC & 5.0
          and a few other Fords

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          • #6
            One more little problem

            You hit the nail on the head Rick!
            My NAPA wasn't much help but Pepboys had what I needed. But the amazing thing was THEY didn't know what they had. I found it all on my own.
            It really is amazing how simple this was to fix with the right tools. I even found a dentist's pick tool. The lesson I learned is take my time, read the stinkin' manual, and get the propoer tools ahead of time! (I honestly believe I wasn't pushing the connector on to the rail all the way. Using the tool to spread the clip makes it a "snap")
            After running up the temperature to normal (15 good minutes)everything seems perfect
            EXCEPT
            Fuel injector No 1 is moist at the upper o-ring. No pooling on the intake but I can see a moist surface about the size of a dime on the intake area where the injector plugs in. All other connections are dry. Will this go away? Can I drive it 10 miles to emission inspection without a major event? Or do I have to pull it apart again?
            Please say "Yes", "Yes", and "Wait a hundred miles"
            Chris
            Chris Weber
            1985-1/2 9L, #6209, original owner

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            • #7
              Chris,

              If it only getting a little moist, not puddling, I think you'd be ok for the emissions test. Plus as cold as it is, it will help keep the under hood temps down. I'd take a fire extinguisher. Cheap insurance.

              Something else you might try is to first relieve the fuel pressure at the rail, loosen the two bolts that hold the rail in place and see if you can push the rail tighter onto the injector, then lock it down again. It maybe that #1 injector is not fully seated in the fuel rail socket.
              Mike S

              '86 SVO 9L Leather
              '86 SVO 9L Road Warrior
              '96 300ZXTT

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              • #8
                Thanks Mike
                I'll give it a try!
                Chris
                Mike,
                It would do you no harm to go over to Champion Racing and ask about job stuff. You never know!
                My friend is Ralph Bunn tell him Chris Weber sent you. You May get into a new line of work (LeMans?). Sell yousrself as a handyman or something. (You can make crates for antyhing) Good luck!!!
                Last edited by Otto Man; 02-03-2004, 09:14 PM.
                Chris Weber
                1985-1/2 9L, #6209, original owner

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                • #9
                  By chance does anyone got a picture of one of these O-rings for our fuel line to fuel rail connector? I'm just wondering of its just a plain jane O-ring that I use.

                  Thanks
                  Ray
                  85' SVO 9L (older) top secert
                  93' 2.3L LX I walk faster
                  04' Z71 Tahoe 16.7 @ 82mph

                  I never knew a four banger could be this much fun, and I may never go back to: N/A, Autos, or V-8s again

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                  • #10
                    the O-rings have to be able to stand fuel -- most plain-jane o-rings wont.

                    it's not a big deal, just hit autozone, and pick up a set. They are only like $5-$7
                    Eric C
                    SVOCA Webmaster

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                    • #11
                      That's exactly what I did.
                      You should get about 18 o-rings, kind of reddish. They are pretty much ALL different so look them over closely. I found one that was ever so slightly bigger, and one a pinch smaller. I chose the bigger one and it worked fine.
                      See pic
                      Chris
                      Attached Files
                      Chris Weber
                      1985-1/2 9L, #6209, original owner

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                      • #12
                        Hey thanks guys !!

                        Eric I worded that all wrong, sorry about that I knew they needed to withstand fuel I just was wondering if they looked like your typical O-rings do. I'm going to head over to AZ now.

                        I got my car put back together but had a few leaks and the timming maybe off a tooth. Other than that I'm hopefull my swaps/work went well I just down loaded more pics if anyone wants to see and I'll shoot some pics on the leak repairs when I'm through.

                        85' SVO 9L (older) top secert
                        93' 2.3L LX I walk faster
                        04' Z71 Tahoe 16.7 @ 82mph

                        I never knew a four banger could be this much fun, and I may never go back to: N/A, Autos, or V-8s again

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                        • #13
                          Ray
                          Nice looking car! And is it me...or are there a lot of 9L's still cruising? I'll start a new thread over in the lounge on this subject one day.
                          Anyway, I notice from your site pictures you have a hose "protector" on your upper radiator hose. I was not sure if these were "stock" and where did you get it, just the same?
                          I think I asked this question before: Are those protectors stock when we got em. I don't remember one on mine.
                          Chris
                          Chris Weber
                          1985-1/2 9L, #6209, original owner

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Chris Weber
                            Ray
                            Nice looking car! And is it me...or are there a lot of 9L's still cruising? I'll start a new thread over in the lounge on this subject one day.
                            Anyway, I notice from your site pictures you have a hose "protector" on your upper radiator hose. I was not sure if these were "stock" and where did you get it, just the same?
                            I think I asked this question before: Are those protectors stock when we got em. I don't remember one on mine.
                            Chris
                            Thanks The 9Ls are basicaly all I've seen except whats been posted on the net. I got it because it gets realy hot here and white is a really nice color to help with heat. The hose protector came with the new hoses. I figured I'd replace them since they was off anyways. I think they would only come on cars with manual fans but don't quote me. My old upper hose didn'y have one also.
                            85' SVO 9L (older) top secert
                            93' 2.3L LX I walk faster
                            04' Z71 Tahoe 16.7 @ 82mph

                            I never knew a four banger could be this much fun, and I may never go back to: N/A, Autos, or V-8s again

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                            • #15
                              Not to beat this dead horse...
                              But are you saying you got the hose AND protector (ribbed sleeve) from Ford as a replacement part? Or did you get that sleeve elsewhere? I am just trying to keep mine right.
                              Just real curious.
                              Once again ...a sweet looking SVO. looks like mine!
                              Thanks
                              Chris
                              Chris Weber
                              1985-1/2 9L, #6209, original owner

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