what spindles do i need?

[truegraw]

a guy has a 96 gt hes parting out, i would like to change my spindles i think, to make the castle nut cover not stick out with aftermarket wheels. would it be best to get spindles rotor and calipers? is this all i need and will it bolt straight up?

[svopony]

/\ what Mike said

and I also had to use the yellow Konis because on the red stock Konis the bottom of the strut hits the spindles.

Bar

[DEVILDOG]

So the 94/95 spindles are the better option?

John

[NinjaBOY]

Didn't Jason from MM say that the later spindles cause an uncorrectable geometry problem? Anybody running the later spindles with good success?

[PsRumors]

This is what MM has to say;

Do not install a 1996-04 spindle on a 1979-93 or 1994-95 Mustang fitted with a stock-geometry k-member!

Doing so will significantly increase bumpsteer because...

•The steering arm on the 1996-04 spindle is about 1.02" (26mm) lower (relative to the rest of the spindle) than the steering arm of any 1979-95 spindle.
•The lower steering arm forces the outer tie-rod end to a lower position.
•That new position is far too low for the steering rack location of any 1979-95 Mustang, and radically changes the steering geometry.
•It is impossible to correct the geometry with a bumpsteer kit because the outer tie-rod end needs to be raised so much that it would have to occupy the same physical space as the steering arm.

[truegraw]

It's a bit more complicated that just the spindle. This conversion has been detailed many times before. Highlites:

- The sn95 spindle ball joint taper is smaller than the SVO a-arm's ball joint so the stock SVO arm will not bolt up to the sn95 spindle.

- The sn95 spindle and associated hub are somewhat wider, 5mm-10mm per side iirc, than the SVO spindles so track increases slightly.

- The spindle-to-strut mounting holes are slightly different than the SVO spindle so some camber adjusting mechanism will be required.

- The steering arm height (rack height) may need to be adjusted for proper bump steer. The 96+ spindles have the straight steering arm while the 94/95 flavors have the dogbone. The dogbone one is uglier.

- You will need the sn95 brake rotor and caliper and associated brackets.

so since this guy is parting the car out what all will i be needing from it?

[SVO4PWR2]

get
a-arms
spindles
hubs, rotors, calipers, lines
struts
and ya should be good to go

-RICH-

[NinjaBOY]

Actually, I think everything but the spindles will work. However, the SN95 lower control arms are supposed to move the spindles back 1/4", which is a step in the wrong direction. I imagine you could correct this by notching your k-member and moving it forward by that or more, but that's alot of work.

If you're just interested in utilizing the SN95 spindles for the wheel/brake benefits, I'd recommend Roberto2000's LCA balljoint re-do and have him put in a set of SN95 balljoints. Then get 94/95 spindles, hubs and brakes and use a set of Fox struts. Then you'll be good to go.

[truegraw]

so the a arms wont be needed?

[Mr. Pink]

so the a arms wont be needed?

Not if you do what Ninjaboy suggested. You will need to pull your SVO arms (or have a spare set) and send them off to Roberto2000 who will clean/POR-15 and replace the SVO balljoints with a set for a SN95 car. Then you will put the SN95 spindles on your SVO arms. You will need the SN95 brakes and lines. FYI, you will need a brake line adapter that will allow you to hook the passenger side brake line to the SVO body line. Check with the supporting vendors to see if they can supply the adapter. Otherwise, I know a couple of the bigger Mustang suspension companies sell one too.

You will have to use Fox struts ('87-93). Your stock Koni's won't work and the SN95 ones are too long. You may be able to modify the SN95 ones...but I'm not 100% on this.

[Special Fred]

/\ what Mike said

and I also had to use the yellow Konis because on the red stock Konis the bottom of the strut hits the spindles.

Bar

You can use the red KONI's if you have the X2 ball joints from Steeda. They provide sufficient strut-to-control arm clearance. I have this setup on my own car with stock control arms from Roberto.

[mdbreaux]

SN95 Spindles and stock wheels

Maybe someone can help me on this subject. I have a 1986 SVO. My engine is out and I am rebuilding it as we speak. I want to remove all the front end suspension and put in a tubular K member, control arms, coilovers, etc. I also want to put in the 1995 or earlier SN95 spindles. My question is this - Do I have to also put in the later model calipers? rotors? and will my stock wheels go back on with this stuff? Thanks to anyone who can help. Michael.

[Gator]

It's not a question of "have to" with the brake calipers - it's more a matter of "want to". The sn95 calipers are much lighter (made of aluminum)

Are they all aluminum ? I could have sworn i had a couple cast ones in the yards.

I seem to recall that the hub diameter is smaller on the SN95 stuff than the SVO - you should verify this first.
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True dat.

[mdbreaux]

Thank you! I will pickup some SN95 calipers, spindles, and rotors on Ebay and see if it all fits. I am willing to attempt it with the stock wheels with your info. I realize I could go with Cobra stuff an larger wheels, but I just want it to look completely stock on the outside and be amonster on the inside. I am putting all my money into the engine, turbo, and a Bigstugg3, World Class T5, an 8.8, and all new front and rear suspension. I know oyu can appreciate that. Thanks again, Michael.

[Special Fred]

the stock SVO master cylinder has 1.125" bore and will result in a *very* heavy pedal effort when used with the smaller piston bores of the SN95 calipers

Are you speaking from experience on this one Mike, or theory? Because I have a stock SVO master cylinder with '95 Mustang front calipers and I don't have a heavy pedal. In fact I can't honestly say that the pedal feel changed at all. Additionally, braking performance doesn't seem to be affected either one way or the other.

One more thing. Stock SVO wheels will bolt right onto the '94-'95 spindle & brake setup without any problems. If I have my stockers on, I have to tell people that there are SN95 brakes under there...since the wheels sit pretty much exactly where they used to in the wheel well with the stock brake setup.