Cold Air Intake Questions

[KarlRodg88]

Just a couple questions. for my next mod i want to do a cai and bpv. i cant decide whether i want to go with a k&n on the vam and the forced4 bpv or the entire forced4 cia and bpv kit. has anybody done both and can attest to them? second question is has anyone in california smogged with either of these, or do you guys just put the stock box back on to smog? thanks in advance for all your guys help.
-Karl

[NY eric]

Either way both options wont pass smog (as far as I know)

[KarlRodg88]

ok well in that case, were there any hp differences between the 2? and maybe this is a dumb question, but since the the cai kit looks so pro, is there any chance i could pass it with a carb sticker off something else, like a k&n kit? thanks.
-Karl

[Rob Hughes]

ok well in that case, were there any hp differences between the 2? and maybe this is a dumb question, but since the the cai kit looks so pro, is there any chance i could pass it with a carb sticker off something else, like a k&n kit? thanks.
-Karl

I like the way this man thinks....

[KarlRodg88]

do we have anybody with a smog license in the house? or any experience with this stuff? thanks guys for your replies.
-Karl

[Pat_in_L.A.]

I have to pull my Forced4 CAI this week before I get smogged. No big deal. One screw, a few hose clamps and it's out. Last time I swapped a stock inlet assembly between cars for an inspection it took a whole ten minutes.

[KarlRodg88]

sounds good pat, i think thats gonna be my tax return or maybe sooner, but the other question i had was if anybody had any advice on getting the whole kit or just a cone filter on the vam and the bpv. anyway thanks again.
-Karl

[CarverSVO]

From what I understand, with just a cone filter attached to the vam you do open it up more and get a really cool sound, but you also take in a much hotter air charge since much of the air comes from the engine bay, and as you know with turbos hot = bad. I've had both setups you're asking about and have to admit that it's much nicer to have the air filter isolated from the engine bay.

[KarlRodg88]

talked to my boss today who does smogs all day, he says if he sees a carb sticker on a legit looking set up he doesnt even second guess it, so i just need to get my hands on a carb sticker. either way hope to order this stuff pretty soon, i appreciate everyones help. thanks again.
-Karl

[Pat_in_L.A.]

Back from smog inspection with the 85.5

or, "To live and smog in L.A.".

Me (to smog guy): "You told me to ask for my fleet discount last time I was here."

Smog guy: "Hi! You're the guy with the turbo Mustangs!". Then he called his co-worker over to take a look under the hood.

Co worker: "Wow, I've only seen one of these before. This one is really clean!"

I had everything that got removed in back of the car and asked him detailed questions about whether I needed to remove all the Forced4 FMIC and CAI parts. Although none of the parts had a CARB EO exemption label, he told me that I didn't need to waste my time taking any of it off in the future. As long as all the original lines & hoses are installed in the proper place and functioning as originally intended, he doesn't waste his time looking for CARB cert labels. He said that any supercharger would be OK as per Appendix K (NOT appendix J, as 8T6SVO was told by his smog guy in another thread. Appendix J deals with OBD2 exemptions. Appendix K deals with aftermarket parts for our pre-OBD2 cars.) in the BAR emissions testing handbook. He even handed me the book when I asked to see it so that I could read through it.

Passed with flying colors.
15 MPH: O2 .3 / HC 81 /CO .03 / NO 32
25 MPH: O2 .3 / HC 18 / CO .00 / NO 327

Now I can throw all the parts back on and leave them on. I'll just need to take a small hole punch to the CAI box and run the charcoal cannister hose to it.

[KarlRodg88]

thats awesome, im sure the guy at the gas station i work at would smog my car but we dont do test only, and thats what i got last time i had to smog. your car sounds really cool pat, do you have any pics? oh and i placed my bid for the cai and bpv on ebay lastnight... thanks again guys for all your help.
-Karl

[Pat_in_L.A.]

Unfortunately, all turbo Fords are "Test Only" in CA. It's supposedly a random sampling of 15% of all CA cars, but then why are all my SVO's test only? I should play the Lotto if I had this sort of predictability.

Install pics are on this thread:

http://www.svoca.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11484&highlight=intercooler

[Eyelawdoc]

Cool! With any luck our renewed registration should show up in the mail sometime next week.

[Pat_in_L.A.]

Cool! With any luck our renewed registration should show up in the mail sometime next week.

I'll just go by Auto Club and get it in person on Monday!

[KarlRodg88]

welp jsut ordered the forced4 cai kit with the bpv and i got a carb sticker comin too. does anybody know if i have to request that the flex eliminator be drilled and tapped or do they do that already since you bought the kit?