what to look for in swaping mainifolds?

[Pro-Hawk]

Re: Gaskets to install turbo

Originally posted by Eyelawdoc
The Felpro gasket set with all the gaskets you need to reinstall the turbo is part number ES 72811

You can buy it at most any auto parts store that carries Felpro for abour $5-6. They probably will NOT have it in stock(don't ask me why). They will need to special order it and that will probably take a couple of days.

I advise buying several at a time and keeping a couple on hand for yourself or for one of your turboford buddies who may need it!

Thanks on the parts numbers I will need it tomorrow/today. I give up on Motion D, I've emailed them and the phone number I have is disconnected. Heck Brain at Motion D gave me that number in person Is it me are do they seem a little generic?

Anyways I would like to do this swap knowing I have a oil feed line just incase mine breaks, does anyone know who carries these.

[SVOeric]

humm.. did you look for the phone number here --

https://www.motion-dynamics.net

I called them just now (got the answering machine, cause it is 7:20 am there) so the number does work.

I've never had any problems catching them.

Motion dynamics is going to be your best bet for a oil feed line, and they are dang near local for you.

[Majestic]

Line

I just installed the braided oil feed line from Motion Dynamics. It was a piece of cake! Came with instructions, fittings, etc. It would appear to provide quite a bit more flow than the stock unit. If for some reason you want the stock oil feed line, the one I removed is in near perfect shape and I'd let you have it for cheap.

Chris

[Pro-Hawk]

Originally posted by SVOeric
humm.. did you look for the phone number here --

https://www.motion-dynamics.net

I called them just now (got the answering machine, cause it is 7:20 am there) so the number does work.

I've never had any problems catching them.

Motion dynamics is going to be your best bet for a oil feed line, and they are dang near local for you.

Hey I used that number on there and got the stuff ordered, thanks for the heads up

This is the number he gave me when I was in Austin a few weeks ago; 1-888-259-5242 which didn't work right.

I was wondering if it would be better to replace the the exhaust from the waste gate back before I did the mainifold. I'm little shy of haveing some guy working on the exhaust with my new mainifold Sounds dumb I know.

As for the Oil feed line I'm going to use the braided line also. I figured it would last a little longer with future mods causeing the turbo to be removed a few more times before I'm done with it. Thanks for the offer though.

[Majestic]

Just to help out...

When I replaced the stock line with the braided piece, I found out that the easiest way to do it was as follows:

After removing the manifold, turbo, etc., you'll have the original
oil feed "hanging" connected to the distribution block. It is a BITCH to get at as it is installed on the dist. block. The first thing you want to do is remove the oil sender. I was lucky enough to be able to remove it by hand (grunted like hell but finally got it). Once the sender is off, you can use a 1 inch socket on the dist. block and turn it about 1/2 turn counter clockwise to get at the feed line. Once it is turned it is SO much easier to get a wrench on the line (10 mm if I recall). Now, install the braided line fitting into the dist. block and the line into the fitting. I used just a dab of thread sealant to ensure there would be no leaks. (DON'T use teflon tape.) Now you can use the 1 inch socket to return the dist. block to the correct up and down position. Be careful not to kink/scrape the braided line on the water lines while doing this. Now install the sender and tighten it down. Again, I used a little thread sealer since I was tightening it down by hand. You'll want to make sure and route the braided line away from the manifold. I secured mine via zip tie to the heater core lines.

That's about it. Hope this helps.

Chris

[Majestic]

Well, maybe I should have said that the insert provided with the line specifically says not to use teflon tape. I would guess that maybe it would melt and clog the lines?

The line I got is flared. However, the connectors to the distribution block and turbo are, indeed, threaded and not flared.

And sorry for not remembering the nut size, Mr. Fleming. I did state "if I recall" and I would think that it would be apparent the size I quoted was wrong once he tried to use it.

I'll just let you handle it from here on out.

Chris

[Pro-Hawk]

Thanks for the heads up guys... I realy need to print all this out so I will have it on hand when I'm doing this swap I will try the turning ot the dis block and hope it makes this a little easier.

[Pro-Hawk]

Is it true that there is no gasket between the head and mainifold, this is what Brain at Motion D told me? If so how does it keep from leaking, is this a benifit on a turbo motor?

[SVOeric]

It is true -- you should not use a gasket between the manafold and head --

Also -- Mike -- most of the turbo rebuilders ask that you do not use teflon tape on the feed line -- seems that some people get carried away with it, and it ends up collecting in the turbo.

[Majestic]

Well...

First off, no big deal Mike. Second, it's funny that Brian told you not to use a gasket, seeing as how they sell a copper gasket themselves. I use this one and it seals great. I know that FROM THE FACTORY they didn't use one. But after thousands of miles I think the head and/or the manifold tend to "warp" a tad. I couldn't get my ported e6 or Boblog to seal without a gasket.

Chris

[Pro-Hawk]

Re: Well...

Originally posted by Majestic it's funny that Brian told you not to use a gasket, seeing as how they sell a copper gasket themselves. I use this one and it seals great. I know that FROM THE FACTORY they didn't use one. But after thousands of miles I think the head and/or the manifold tend to "warp" a tad. I couldn't get my ported e6 or Boblog to seal without a gasket. Chris [/B]

Well heck should I order one just incase it want seal? I'm not in a hurry but its nice when you not waiting a week for a part/gasket

[Pro-Hawk]

You guys are great

My replacement mainifold is going to be a ported E6 and I'm using all new bolts, studs, and nuts from MD. I may have the flatness of the mainifold checked out just to be safe.

Thanks

[Pro-Hawk]

Originally posted by GAboySVO
Oh yeah, don't forget to get a new oil drain line gasket before you start. It is not something you can pick up last minute from your local auto parts store.

Well I started clearing away the mainifold to soak the bolts in PB Blast. Anyways my line doesn't have this type of fitting on it, instead its got like a brass elbow on the turbo and the line screws into it from the sending unit. The other line goes from the air compressor side to the vavle cover. Now is this how some stock SVOs was done or did someone which things up? Also is this a good way of routing the oil or should I change something up?

[Pro-Hawk]

Yo Mike thanks for the pics they really helped a lot

I got a little lost on that one line going to the vavle cover Now I also got a better idea on the "Y" bracket also.

[Pro-Hawk]

Well the rain has stoped and I'm abe to start my mainifold swap, so fair I got the IC and the bottom exhaust off. This time off kinda helped out since it gave the PB Blast a ton of time to work and it works great Thanks for the heads up on it.

Anyways I was wondering if its ok to remove the two bolts on the oil return line to the turbo since it looks easier to get to. Are should I remove it from the block side?

Also on the "Y" bracket can you just remove that one bolt to the block or do you need to remove the two bolts on the turbo end?

Last but not least, Is there anything wrong with just pulling the mainifold out as one unit and putting it back as one unit?

Thanks for the help.